آموزش گام به گام مدلسازی ( پیشرفته )

[amir0 9 اعضا عادی]

مجید جان واقعا ممنونم از وقتی که میذارید...

اگر صلاح میدونید یک مقداری موارد عملی رو که در هر مرحله لازم است رو هم به تناسب کار در تمرین ها ببینیم.

مثلا: انتخاب رنک، آماده سازی لبه ورقها، ...در واقع همزمان با پیشرفت تمرین ها نکات اجرایی هم دیده بشه.

سپاس

[M-MAHDAVI 13 کاربران ویژه]

سلام استاد زیبایی

منم مثل امیر بینهایت از شما سپاسگذارم . امیر نظر جالبی داده اگه شما موافقت کنید خیلی عالی میشه.

[RoOozbeh 10 اعضا عادی]

مهندس زیبایی مدل منو دیدین ؟ نظری ندادین ..مشکل یه چند تایی فک کنم داره...

نتونستم سایز مورد نظر پیچ رو پیدا کنم .. از چه دستوری میشه اون سایزوایجاد کرد ؟

یه سوال دیگه هم تو پست قبل ازین پست گذاشته بودم که فک کنم بجای استفاده از دستور MAKE INTO ASS باید add to ass رو میزدم !

[javad_1r 6 اعضا عادی]

با تشکر فراوان از مهندس زیبایی که خالصانه زحمت می کشند.

مهندس جان من هم مدل کردم ولی نمی دونم چطور از مدل جدول رو تهیه کنم

[زیبائی 22 مدیران تالار]

دوستان با عرض سلام و پوزش بعلت غیبت طولانی مدت. اما باور بفرمایید مشکل فقط از کمبود زمان بنده نیست و هراز گاهی که فرصتی پیدا میشه میام که ادامه ی آموزش و بحث رو داشته باشیم اما متاسفانه سایت باز نمیشه !! هر از گاهی سایت باز میشه که تا من میام به خودم بجنبم و ببینم قبلاً تا کجا پیش رفتیم و به کجا رسیدیم مجدداً دسترسی قطع میشه و من شرمنده میشم. این پست رو کذاشتم تا بدونید که به هر حال به فکر هستم و از هر فرصتی برای در خدمت بودن استفاده میکنم اما اقبال هم کم لطفی میکنه و نمیتونم وارد سایت بشم !

جالب اینجاست که الان با وی پی ان متصل شدم اما به صورت عادی نمیتونم متصل بشم ! به هرحال امیدوارم هرچه زودتر این مشکلات فنی مرتفع بشه و باز هم یک جمع گرم داشته باشیم.

ممنون از شکیبایی شما

[Saeed Aslani 23 مدیران تالار]

متاسفانه این روزا سایت خیلی سوت و کوره .

[amir0 9 اعضا عادی]

من هم دقیقا همینطور :

"""متاسفانه سایت باز نمیشه !! هر از گاهی سایت باز میشه اما اقبال هم کم لطفی میکنه و نمیتونم وارد سایت بشم !

جالب اینجاست که الان با وی پی ان متصل شدم اما به صورت عادی نمیتونم متصل بشم ! به هرحال امیدوارم هرچه زودتر این مشکلات فنی مرتفع بشه و باز هم یک جمع گرم داشته باشیم."""

[izadpanah 45 مدیرکل]

دوستان عزیزم. از شما بدلیل مشکلات ایجاد شده عذرخواهی می کنم و صبر و بردباری شما را می ستایم. لطفا برای رفع مشکل، لینک زیر را مطالعه نمایید و سوال مطرح شده را پاسخ دهید:

http://forum.shopdrawings.ir/showthread.php?tid=2429

 

اما در مورد سوت و کور شدن اخیر سایت، من که به نوبه خودم این چند روز درگیری زیادی داشتم و البته یه کمی هم از انرزی من کاسته شده است که ان شالله به همراهی دوستان افزوده می شود.

مهندس نباتی هم که قبلا بود و نبودشان تاثیری نداشت، از سایت جدا شدند و دیگر اصلا هیچ حضوری نداشته و نخواهند داشت.

آرامیس هم فعلا به تهران نقل مکان کرده و ظاهرا دسترسی به اینترنت ندارند.

مهندس زیبایی هم که پدر شده و فعلا شبها بایستی بچه داری نمایند و روزها به شوق دیدار فرزند، سریعا کارها را انجام دهند.

داوود تکلا هم که امتحان دارد.

علیرضا هم فعالیتشان مثل سابق است.

رضا زاهدی هم که درگیر پروژه ای است و در کنار پروژه خود، درگیری های دیگری دارد.

دوستان دیگر را هم اگر از قلم انداختم، به نوبه خود ببخشند.

ظاهرا تو این ایام، فقط سعید رفت و آمدی به سایت دارد که من ازش تشکر می کنم.

هر چند که فی الحال حاضر دلایل سوت و کوری سایت مقطعی است، اما یکی از دلایل عمده این سوت و کوری که من نیزبدان واقفم، کم بودن مخاطبان سایت است. شاید خیلی ها از وجود این سایت بی خبرند و حتی با وجود خبردار بودن، دلایلی برای عدم حضور خود دارند. بهتر است تاپیکی جدیدی ایجاد کنیم و درباره آن و روشهای رهایی ازاین شرایط تبادل نظر کنیم:

http://forum.shopdrawings.ir/showthread.php?tid=2430

 

[RoOozbeh 10 اعضا عادی]

چطوره تا حضور دوباره مهندس یه تعریف پروژه جدید انجام بدیم و سعی در رفع نواقص یکدیگر کنیم ..

انجام یه پروژه کامل از گرید بندی تا نقشه گیری هم تو فروم خالی از لطف نیست .. اینبار به جای تمرین هر جلسه قسمتی از پروژه رو مدل کنیم !

[izadpanah 45 مدیرکل]

پیشنهاد خوبیست. نقشه کاملی از یک سازه 30 تنی بدست رسیده که برای آموزش فوق العاده است. اگر دوستان تمایل داشته باشند، این سازه را دنبال کنیم. از آنجاییکه همه کار این تاپیک مهندس زیبایی هستند، من در این تاپیک فعالیتی نمی کنم. از این رو در اون یکی تاپیک آموزش گام به گام این نقشه را می توانیم مدل کنیم. موافقان اعلام نمایند تا کار را شروع کنیم.

[زیبائی 22 مدیران تالار]

روزبه جان من مدل شما رو دیده بودم و احتمالاً فراموش کردم براتون یادداشت بذارم.

به نظر میرسید که مدل شما اشتباه ارسال شده باشه چون من در مدل شما هیچ بیس پلیتی ندیدم و درخواست کرده بودم دوستان دیگه هم بررسی کنن که متاسفانه فراموش کردم یادداشت کنم. الانم که دیگه فایل شما رو سرور وجود نداره. در صورت امکان یک مرتبه دیگه ارسال بفرمایید.

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اگر خاطرتون باشه که حتماً هست تا اینجای کار شما یک ستون و صفحه ستون ساختید. در بحث هوشمند سازی یک تیر هم ساخته بودید. لطف کنید و همون تیر رو با همون مشخصات از اون مدلی که ایجاد کرده بودید ، به این مدل ( ستون و صفحه ستون ) منتقل کنید تا بقیه ی تمرین رو عرض کنم.

اگر اون مدل رو ندارید ( تیر هوشمندسازی شده ) مهم نیست یکبار دیگه تشریف ببرید در مبحث هوشمند سازی و اون تیر رو تو یه مدل جدید ایجاد کنید و بعد منتقلش کنید به این مدل. لازم به ذکره که هوشمند کردن تیر اصلاً مهم نیست و کافیه که فقط طول تیر 3 متر باشه به علاوه ی اتصال ورق انتهایی.

موفق باشید.

[pirooz 3 اعضا عادی]

به مهندس ايزد پناه :

 

آقا ما كه هميشه پايه بوديم .هنوز هم هستيم .امتحانا هم تموم شده وقت خاليمون تقريبا بيشتر شده .

مهندس فقط يه چيزي .به نظر من بهتره براي اينكه سردرگمي نشه، نقشه تو سايت تيكه تيكه گزاشته بشه .

چون تو تاپيك هاي ديگه كه ديدم نقشه كامل بود دوستان لطف كرده بودن هر كي تا يه جايي مدل كرده بود ما هم نفهميديم آخر آموزش تا كجا پيش رفته .يكي بيس پليت بود يكي بادبند بود يكي سقف بود يكي كلا تموم كرده بود

 

با تشكر .

پيروز .

[RoOozbeh 10 اعضا عادی]

روزبه جان من مدل شما رو دیده بودم و احتمالاً فراموش کردم براتون یادداشت بذارم.

به نظر میرسید که مدل شما اشتباه ارسال شده باشه چون من در مدل شما هیچ بیس پلیتی ندیدم و درخواست کرده بودم دوستان دیگه هم بررسی کنن که متاسفانه فراموش کردم یادداشت کنم. الانم که دیگه فایل شما رو سرور وجود نداره. در صورت امکان یک مرتبه دیگه ارسال بفرمایید.

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برای ایجاد سایز پیچ جدید باید از طریق منوی :

Detailing > Bolts > Bolt Catalog اقدام کنید و سایز و اطلاعات موزد نیاز پیچ و مهره و واشر رو وارد و گزینه ی Add رو بزنید تا سایز مورد نظر به لیست پیچها اضافه و قابل استفاده بشه.

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یکی از گزینه های بسیار مورد استفاده و گاهی اوقات حیاتی ، گزینه ی Copy Special > From Another Model هستش که باید به خوبی بتونید از اون استفاده کنید.

اگر خاطرتون باشه که حتماً هست تا اینجای کار شما یک ستون و صفحه ستون ساختید. در بحث هوشمند سازی یک تیر هم ساخته بودید. لطف کنید و همون تیر رو با همون مشخصات از اون مدلی که ایجاد کرده بودید ، به این مدل ( ستون و صفحه ستون ) منتقل کنید تا بقیه ی تمرین رو عرض کنم.

اگر اون مدل رو ندارید ( تیر هوشمندسازی شده ) مهم نیست یکبار دیگه تشریف ببرید در مبحث هوشمند سازی و اون تیر رو تو یه مدل جدید ایجاد کنید و بعد منتقلش کنید به این مدل. لازم به ذکره که هوشمند کردن تیر اصلاً مهم نیست و کافیه که فقط طول تیر 3 متر باشه به علاوه ی اتصال ورق انتهایی.

موفق باشید.

سلام

جدی میگین ؟ آخرین باری که چکیدم بیس پلیت کامل رسم شده بود

در مورد پیچ ها.. استاندارد مورد استفاده در سازه های فلزی در کشورمون کدامیک هست ؟ این استانداردها آیا مرجعی دارن که در موردشون بشه مطالعه کرد ؟

در صورت امکان برای تمرین هاتو ن زمانی مناسب تخصیص بدین و در متن اعلام بفرمایید تا همه بتونن خودشونو برسونن

متشکرم

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پیشنهاد خوبیست. نقشه کاملی از یک سازه 30 تنی بدست رسیده که برای آموزش فوق العاده است. اگر دوستان تمایل داشته باشند، این سازه را دنبال کنیم. از آنجاییکه همه کار این تاپیک مهندس زیبایی هستند، من در این تاپیک فعالیتی نمی کنم. از این رو در اون یکی تاپیک آموزش گام به گام این نقشه را می توانیم مدل کنیم. موافقان اعلام نمایند تا کار را شروع کنیم.

 

جناب ایزدپناه اگر قبول زحمت بفرمایید و مارو در این خصوص راهنمایی بفرمایید ممنون میشیم..منتظر تاپیک جدید تون هستیم

[M-MAHDAVI 13 کاربران ویژه]

مهندس زیبایی ورود دوباره شما رو خیر مقدم عرض میکنم

[amir0 9 اعضا عادی]

تا موقع رفتن من شد سایت فعال شد !

به هر حال خوشحالم و سعی میکنم عقب نیفتم!

[زیبائی 22 مدیران تالار]

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دریافت کنید اما استانداردی که من در اکثر نقشه های ایران میبینم استاندارد 6914 هستش اما بعنوان کسی که کار شاپ انجام میده باید عرض کنم در ایران عزیز ما متاسفانه کارخانه داران محترم به تنها چیزی که توجه میکنن سایز و موقعیت پیچ هستش و اصلاً نمیدونن این 6914 یا 7968 یا نلسون و دین چی هستن ! شما کافیه دو موردی که عرض شد رو مبنای کار قرار بدید کارخونه خودش میدونه چه پیچی در بازار موجوده و چی باید تهیه بشه.

در مورد زمانبندی عارضم که همونطور که میدونید بنده فعلاً درگیریهای زیادی دارم و تا به این رویه ی جدید وفق بگیرم مدتی زمان میبره که برای چندمین بار پوزش میخوام ، اما فی الحال مقداری خودم رو پیدا کردم و سعی میکنم هرروز حتماً سری بزنم.

[RoOozbeh 10 اعضا عادی]

در مورد پیچ ها باید بگم اطلاعات بسیار خوبی رو میتونید از این سایت :

http://pichiran.com/?cat=43

دریافت کنید اما استانداردی که من در اکثر نقشه های ایران میبینم استاندارد 6914 هستش اما بعنوان کسی که کار شاپ انجام میده باید عرض کنم در ایران عزیز ما متاسفانه کارخانه داران محترم به تنها چیزی که توجه میکنن سایز و موقعیت پیچ هستش و اصلاً نمیدونن این 6914 یا 7968 یا نلسون و دین چی هستن ! شما کافیه دو موردی که عرض شد رو مبنای کار قرار بدید کارخونه خودش میدونه چه پیچی در بازار موجوده و چی باید تهیه بشه.

در مورد زمانبندی عارضم که همونطور که میدونید بنده فعلاً درگیریهای زیادی دارم و تا به این رویه ی جدید وفق بگیرم مدتی زمان میبره که برای چندمین بار پوزش میخوام ، اما فی الحال مقداری خودم رو پیدا کردم و سعی میکنم هرروز حتماً سری بزنم.

ممنون از لینک و مطالب مفیدتون .. در مورد زمان منظور من زمان حضور شما نبود! بیشتر منظورم زمانی بود که کارآموزان وقت کنن تمرینو انجام بدن اگر زمان زیاد باشه که موردی نداره اما اگر زمان کم باشه نمیرسیم تمارین رو انجام بدیم ..مثلا هر تمرین 72 ساعت یا 48 ساعت بسته به تمرین زمان نیاز داره ...معمولا یه زمان پرت هم این وسط داریم که مربوط میشه به آپدیت تمارین و گرفتن یا دیدن و انلاین شدن ...آخرین تمرین یادمه که من به خاطر وقت نکردن آخرین نفر رسیده بودم و زمان به اتمام رسیده بود درحالیکه 72 ساعت بعد من تمرین رو آماده داشتم

 

[aramiss 28 مدیران تالار]

ئر پیرو صحبتهای مهندس زیبایی در مورد انواع پیچ ها برای تصویر بهتر از مدل سه بعدی انواع پیج ها انواع چرخ دنده ها و مهره ها و واشر ها و .... با استاندارد های مختلف توجه شما را به library نرم افزار solidworks جلب می نمایم در این مجموعه لایبری انواع استانداردها گردآوری شده است

[M-MAHDAVI 13 کاربران ویژه]

مهنس زیبایی آماده ایم به مرحله بعدی بریم به نظر من بهتر است برای تمرین ها مهلت تعیین کنید مثلا 4روز

[amir0 9 اعضا عادی]

ما منتظر تمرین بعدی هستیم... ( مثل : "ما منتظر دومیش هستیم" بخونید ! )

[RoOozbeh 10 اعضا عادی]

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